Comments on: What Makes a Restaurant Authentic? http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/07/what-makes-a-restaurant-authentic/ Race, Class, The District. Mon, 16 Jul 2012 03:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Weiwen Ng http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/07/what-makes-a-restaurant-authentic/#comment-1033 Weiwen Ng Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:26:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=8850#comment-1033 For me, authenticity has two meanings. One meaning is fidelity to the cuisine's traditions. Another meaning is doing things in the spirit of a cuisine's traditions. My common criticism of a lot of the pan-Asian restaurants in DC is that they serve a bunch of different types of Asian food that don't go together, like Thai food and sushi. That's low fidelity, in that the food is usually not of very high quality, and that's against the spirit of the cuisines, in that they're serving stuff that doesn't go together. For high fidelity, I like Sushiko. Best sushi in the area, imo. And Pho 75. For high in the spiritness but NOT high fidelity, I'm not sure what I would cite for Asian food. I cook a lot, and I've done a veggie lasagne with whole wheat noodles, eggplant and kale, going light on the ricotta. I would think of that as being in the spirit of Italian food, but not necessarily in high fidelity to what Italian cooks of the past have done. The problem with Asian food is that its ingredients often don't mix well across cultures. Completely different tastes. Within Asian cuisine, I've yet to go to a restaurant that mixes them well. There was this restaurant in Minneapolis, Chino Latino, that attempted to mix Latin American and Asian. It was an interesting concept, in that Latin American and many Asian cuisines use a lot of pork, have strong tastes, and share some herbs in common like cilantro. What we got was essentially an Asian menu and a Latin American menu, though. And their attempt at sushi had just too much going on to be good. For me, authenticity has two meanings.

One meaning is fidelity to the cuisine’s traditions.

Another meaning is doing things in the spirit of a cuisine’s traditions.

My common criticism of a lot of the pan-Asian restaurants in DC is that they serve a bunch of different types of Asian food that don’t go together, like Thai food and sushi. That’s low fidelity, in that the food is usually not of very high quality, and that’s against the spirit of the cuisines, in that they’re serving stuff that doesn’t go together.

For high fidelity, I like Sushiko. Best sushi in the area, imo. And Pho 75.

For high in the spiritness but NOT high fidelity, I’m not sure what I would cite for Asian food. I cook a lot, and I’ve done a veggie lasagne with whole wheat noodles, eggplant and kale, going light on the ricotta. I would think of that as being in the spirit of Italian food, but not necessarily in high fidelity to what Italian cooks of the past have done.

The problem with Asian food is that its ingredients often don’t mix well across cultures. Completely different tastes. Within Asian cuisine, I’ve yet to go to a restaurant that mixes them well. There was this restaurant in Minneapolis, Chino Latino, that attempted to mix Latin American and Asian. It was an interesting concept, in that Latin American and many Asian cuisines use a lot of pork, have strong tastes, and share some herbs in common like cilantro. What we got was essentially an Asian menu and a Latin American menu, though. And their attempt at sushi had just too much going on to be good.

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By: Weiwen Ng http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/07/what-makes-a-restaurant-authentic/#comment-1034 Weiwen Ng Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:26:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=8850#comment-1034 For me, authenticity has two meanings. One meaning is fidelity to the cuisine's traditions. Another meaning is doing things in the spirit of a cuisine's traditions. My common criticism of a lot of the pan-Asian restaurants in DC is that they serve a bunch of different types of Asian food that don't go together, like Thai food and sushi. That's low fidelity, in that the food is usually not of very high quality, and that's against the spirit of the cuisines, in that they're serving stuff that doesn't go together. For high fidelity, I like Sushiko. Best sushi in the area, imo. And Pho 75. For high in the spiritness but NOT high fidelity, I'm not sure what I would cite for Asian food. I cook a lot, and I've done a veggie lasagne with whole wheat noodles, eggplant and kale, going light on the ricotta. I would think of that as being in the spirit of Italian food, but not necessarily in high fidelity to what Italian cooks of the past have done. The problem with Asian food is that its ingredients often don't mix well across cultures. Completely different tastes. Within Asian cuisine, I've yet to go to a restaurant that mixes them well. There was this restaurant in Minneapolis, Chino Latino, that attempted to mix Latin American and Asian. It was an interesting concept, in that Latin American and many Asian cuisines use a lot of pork, have strong tastes, and share some herbs in common like cilantro. What we got was essentially an Asian menu and a Latin American menu, though. And their attempt at sushi had just too much going on to be good. For me, authenticity has two meanings.

One meaning is fidelity to the cuisine’s traditions.

Another meaning is doing things in the spirit of a cuisine’s traditions.

My common criticism of a lot of the pan-Asian restaurants in DC is that they serve a bunch of different types of Asian food that don’t go together, like Thai food and sushi. That’s low fidelity, in that the food is usually not of very high quality, and that’s against the spirit of the cuisines, in that they’re serving stuff that doesn’t go together.

For high fidelity, I like Sushiko. Best sushi in the area, imo. And Pho 75.

For high in the spiritness but NOT high fidelity, I’m not sure what I would cite for Asian food. I cook a lot, and I’ve done a veggie lasagne with whole wheat noodles, eggplant and kale, going light on the ricotta. I would think of that as being in the spirit of Italian food, but not necessarily in high fidelity to what Italian cooks of the past have done.

The problem with Asian food is that its ingredients often don’t mix well across cultures. Completely different tastes. Within Asian cuisine, I’ve yet to go to a restaurant that mixes them well. There was this restaurant in Minneapolis, Chino Latino, that attempted to mix Latin American and Asian. It was an interesting concept, in that Latin American and many Asian cuisines use a lot of pork, have strong tastes, and share some herbs in common like cilantro. What we got was essentially an Asian menu and a Latin American menu, though. And their attempt at sushi had just too much going on to be good.

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By: lacrisha jones http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/07/what-makes-a-restaurant-authentic/#comment-716 lacrisha jones Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:40:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=8850#comment-716 I agree with Nandalal about food being "good" or "bad". Also, I think the only way to get "authentic" cuisine is to go to the place where it actually comes from. The water, soil, grass and air all make a food what it is, and those elements can't be transported somewhere else. Is the Red Stripe I buy in VA "authentic"? I don't think so, because the Red Stripe I've had in the Islands tastes different! I agree with Nandalal about food being “good” or “bad”. Also, I think the only way to get “authentic” cuisine is to go to the place where it actually comes from. The water, soil, grass and air all make a food what it is, and those elements can’t be transported somewhere else. Is the Red Stripe I buy in VA “authentic”? I don’t think so, because the Red Stripe I’ve had in the Islands tastes different!

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By: Nandalal Nagalingam Rasiah http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/07/what-makes-a-restaurant-authentic/#comment-715 Nandalal Nagalingam Rasiah Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:29:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=8850#comment-715 you might want to check out: http://authenticityhoax.squarespace.com/ by the author of the book by the same name.   so often we humans require a rubric by which to judge things (especially things as subjective as taste) and food is no exception.  I automatically distrust restaurants that include the word "authentic" in their advertising.  I find the words "good" and "bad" far more useful.  There is a pizza place that serves 100% authentic Neapolitan pizza in my town but i 100% dislike Neapolitan pizza and thus it is "bad."  Much more meaningful than "authentic." you might want to check out:
http://authenticityhoax.squarespace.com/

by the author of the book by the same name.  

so often we humans require a rubric by which to judge things (especially things as subjective as taste) and food is no exception.  I automatically distrust restaurants that include the word “authentic” in their advertising.  I find the words “good” and “bad” far more useful.  There is a pizza place that serves 100% authentic Neapolitan pizza in my town but i 100% dislike Neapolitan pizza and thus it is “bad.”  Much more meaningful than “authentic.”

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By: Cob http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/07/what-makes-a-restaurant-authentic/#comment-714 Cob Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:42:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=8850#comment-714 sometimes i want authenticity. sometimes i don't. if i've traveled, i may want to eat a piece of that place back here in dc. if i don't know anything about a place, i would like to get a sense of it, and eating out is one small way. i've never had authentic mexican, for instance. my sense of what that might even be is so far off, it's laughable, but i don't really care. sometimes though i crave a pizza parlors identical to ones i ate in my youth in northern new jersey.  mostly though, i want life to be fun and creative, and creativity inherently involves change and inovation. at home, i combine irish cooking with indian cooking. i mix my sense of mexican with thai. all the time. too many fun and delicious results occur and we lose out when we don't mix things. creole is a prime example of why mixing is fantastic. creating Creole is all about throwing away authenticity. italian food wouldn't be italian food if they hadn't tossed away authenticity when marco polo got back. to me, authenticity is like comfort food for when we need to be reminded, or when we feel lost. but the fun is in inauthentic. sometimes i want authenticity. sometimes i don’t.
if i’ve traveled, i may want to eat a piece of that place back here in dc. if i don’t know anything about a place, i would like to get a sense of it, and eating out is one small way.
i’ve never had authentic mexican, for instance. my sense of what that might even be is so far off, it’s laughable, but i don’t really care. sometimes though i crave a pizza parlors identical to ones i ate in my youth in northern new jersey. 

mostly though, i want life to be fun and creative, and creativity inherently involves change and inovation. at home, i combine irish cooking with indian cooking. i mix my sense of mexican with thai. all the time. too many fun and delicious results occur and we lose out when we don’t mix things. creole is a prime example of why mixing is fantastic. creating Creole is all about throwing away authenticity. italian food wouldn’t be italian food if they hadn’t tossed away authenticity when marco polo got back.

to me, authenticity is like comfort food for when we need to be reminded, or when we feel lost. but the fun is in inauthentic.

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