Comments on: When Part-Latino Men are Considered ‘White Dudes’ http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/ Race, Class, The District. Mon, 16 Jul 2012 03:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Realist http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/#comment-1091 Realist Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:05:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=5446#comment-1091 Spoken like a real racist, get a life lilli. Spoken like a real racist, get a life lilli.

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By: jay http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/#comment-804 jay Thu, 01 Sep 2011 04:23:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=5446#comment-804  You have no idea what you are talking about. If an asian were born and raised in Mexico and grew up speaking spanish he or she would be Latino. Latinos can be off any race and I bet you are just  seeing more native american looking latinos in the United States. Light skinned latinos usually have some or all european ancestry. Also most people aren't uncomfortable with immigrants they are uncomfortable with illegal aliens.  You have no idea what you are talking about. If an asian were born and raised in Mexico and grew up speaking spanish he or she would be Latino. Latinos can be off any race and I bet you are just  seeing more native american looking latinos in the United States. Light skinned latinos usually have some or all european ancestry. Also most people aren’t uncomfortable with immigrants they are uncomfortable with illegal aliens.

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By: Pradoprada91 http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/#comment-777 Pradoprada91 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 05:57:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=5446#comment-777 Well to be Frank with you most Mexicans have an average of 65%-85% European admixture, aka mostly white. Some have more some have less. "Hispanic", "Latino", "Mexican", "Cuban" are NOT races they are nationalities and ethnicity. There are white Cubans, white Mexicans, black Cubans, black Mexicans, ect. Your views are biased based on current immigration trends. You try to separate from a people whom you actually have more in common with than say blacks or Asians. Well to be Frank with you most Mexicans have an average of 65%-85% European admixture, aka mostly white. Some have more some have less. “Hispanic”, “Latino”, “Mexican”, “Cuban” are NOT races they are nationalities and ethnicity. There are white Cubans, white Mexicans, black Cubans, black Mexicans, ect. Your views are biased based on current immigration trends. You try to separate from a people whom you actually have more in common with than say blacks or Asians.

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By: punkrockhair http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/#comment-451 punkrockhair Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:55:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=5446#comment-451 People find it strange when I tell people I consider myself non-white. I'm half Colombian, raised in the UK, but I'm light skinned and look European and my Colombian mother is also light and looks "white," although other members of my Colombian family don't. But I consider myself Latina and I feel very uncomfortable with saying I'm white. People find it strange when I tell people I consider myself non-white. I’m half Colombian, raised in the UK, but I’m light skinned and look European and my Colombian mother is also light and looks “white,” although other members of my Colombian family don’t. But I consider myself Latina and I feel very uncomfortable with saying I’m white.

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By: Illy http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/#comment-450 Illy Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:05:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=5446#comment-450 Well coming from a fairly educated white female I've always been struck at how some latinos think themselves to be white. Before the anti muslim sentiment I believe Arabs believed they were white as well. I never see them as such. The human mind works that way. The meme is too powerful. To be white is to be european !Not Armenian or Hispanic or arab or lebanese. To be frank most Americans feel more of a commonality with black Americans. Maybe it's because their families have been Americans for as long as we have. Even longer. Most of what we stereotypically think of as American has it's roots in black culture , we all consciously or subconsciously know that. What most white Americans like myself are uncomfortable with is immigrants. America wouldn't have voted for any Latino under any circumstances and I think a lot of Americans would tell you the same if they were being honest. Race is more politics than a particular look. Well coming from a fairly educated white female I’ve always been struck at how some latinos think themselves to be white. Before the anti muslim sentiment I believe Arabs believed they were white as well. I never see them as such. The human mind works that way. The meme is too powerful. To be white is to be european !Not Armenian or Hispanic or arab or lebanese. To be frank most Americans feel more of a commonality with black Americans. Maybe it’s because their families have been Americans for as long as we have. Even longer. Most of what we stereotypically think of as American has it’s roots in black culture , we all consciously or subconsciously know that. What most white Americans like myself are uncomfortable with is immigrants. America wouldn’t have voted for any Latino under any circumstances and I think a lot of Americans would tell you the same if they were being honest. Race is more politics than a particular look.

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By: Zena http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/#comment-449 Zena Fri, 08 Apr 2011 20:32:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=5446#comment-449 None of this is new for mixed race folks, especially those of us who look white (I'm half white and half Arab). Self identification can, and does change depending on the situation in which you find yourself. For those of us identified as "white," regardless of our actual ethnicity, we must understand the privilege that that label might have afforded us. I'm never more conscious of that then when I am in a crowd, standing next to my very dark skinned Lebanese father. For the record, I feel most comfortable identifying as a "mixed American." None of this is new for mixed race folks, especially those of us who look white (I’m half white and half Arab). Self identification can, and does change depending on the situation in which you find yourself. For those of us identified as “white,” regardless of our actual ethnicity, we must understand the privilege that that label might have afforded us. I’m never more conscious of that then when I am in a crowd, standing next to my very dark skinned Lebanese father. For the record, I feel most comfortable identifying as a “mixed American.”

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By: Keith http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/#comment-448 Keith Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:45:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=5446#comment-448 Isn't there a difference between being a White-skinned Latino who identifies as Latino first and foremost and having a Latino and White parent and being White-skinned? I don't know that any of these bloggers self-identify as Latino, so even though their parentage is part of who they are, was their Latinoness or lack of Latinoness releavnt in this piece? Keith Isn’t there a difference between being a White-skinned Latino who identifies as Latino first and foremost and having a Latino and White parent and being White-skinned? I don’t know that any of these bloggers self-identify as Latino, so even though their parentage is part of who they are, was their Latinoness or lack of Latinoness releavnt in this piece?

Keith

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By: andrew http://dcentric.wamu.org/2011/04/when-part-latino-men-are-considered-white-dudes/#comment-447 andrew Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:09:00 +0000 http://dcentric.wamu.org/?p=5446#comment-447 Some of us pass for white -- that means accent, passport, cultural background (raised middle class US), education, and yeah, very fair skin, hair and eyes. I didn't see any of them dispute their whiteness. Which is not at all to say we shouldn't contest the whitening of Latin@s generally a la that Pew report -- nuestros vocer@s/our spokespeople are uniformly light-skinned, middle class assimilationists who want desperately not to be lumped in with African-Americans and other people of color, and this tendency towards colorism and the old phrase "improving the race" (mejorando la raza) goes back to the days of the conquistadores. But for some of us, particularly 2nd-gen, not acknowledging our whiteness would be like watering the grass during a rainstorm. Some of us pass for white — that means accent, passport, cultural background (raised middle class US), education, and yeah, very fair skin, hair and eyes. I didn’t see any of them dispute their whiteness. Which is not at all to say we shouldn’t contest the whitening of Latin@s generally a la that Pew report — nuestros vocer@s/our spokespeople are uniformly light-skinned, middle class assimilationists who want desperately not to be lumped in with African-Americans and other people of color, and this tendency towards colorism and the old phrase “improving the race” (mejorando la raza) goes back to the days of the conquistadores. But for some of us, particularly 2nd-gen, not acknowledging our whiteness would be like watering the grass during a rainstorm.

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